In a candid exchange, the question was whether Karol Nawrocki could shoulder an immense burden, both physically and mentally, alongside his family. Jarosław Kaczyński answered with striking clarity, pointing to Nawrocki’s extraordinary resilience and readiness. He did not spell out every detail, yet his verdict was unequivocal: Nawrocki has the discipline and fortitude of a seasoned athlete, capable of withstanding intense pressure and demanding duties that come with public service.
The discussion occurred after the Civic Committee put Nawrocki forth as a candidate for the presidency of Poland. The Law and Justice party lent its support, with its chairman insisting that the move served the homeland’s interests because Poland itself deserves strong leadership at this pivotal moment.
There was a problem with this Poland in my heart
Asked whether the upcoming presidential campaign would emphasize values, the PiS leader stressed a return to straightforward meanings and verifiable facts. He argued that truth has often been distorted in recent times and that this trend resembles tactics used by non-democratic systems. The goal, he said, is to reassert clarity in public life and to emphasize concrete, factual discourse.
Ogórek quoted Nawrocki as saying that he lives modestly yet with dignity, carrying Poland in his heart. The moment was marked by visible emotion among the crowd gathered in Kraków, where tears were seen among many who attended the event in the hall.
According to the speaker, many long-entrenched figures who have held power over the last three and a half decades did not live modestly or with Poland in their hearts. The leader suggested there was a pervasive disconnect between public life and the country’s welfare, a sentiment he described as a persistent issue among leaders of previous eras.
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He’ll be fine
When the topic turned to potential clashes between Nawrocki and Trzaskowski, who had labeled Nawrocki a candidate of the globalist elites, Kaczyński acknowledged that the Warsaw mayor was indeed a rival. He cautioned, however, that he would not escalate or inflame the conflict, underscoring a desire to end divisive Polish-Polish confrontations rather than fuel them.
That approach may be feasible, he added, but it is not how they operate in practice — a line that hinted at the careful choreography often required in modern political battles.
Asked whether Nawrocki could withstand the relentless media scrutiny that inevitably accompanies a national campaign, Kaczyński offered a confident assessment. Nawrocki, he said, possesses the stamina to weather heavy attacks. He pointed to Nawrocki’s track record—leading the Museum of the Second World War and later directing the Institute of National Remembrance—as evidence of his ability to endure pressure and remain steadfast under public review.
Ogórek pressed on Nawrocki’s stance on broader policy matters, including the Green Deal. In Kraków Nawrocki expressed a cautious line: ecology yes, climate activism that ignores practicality no. The European Commission, he added, has shown signs that the Green Deal may not be profitable, a view that some officials have started to publicly acknowledge. This stance, he argued, is a practical critique of sweeping environmental programs that do not deliver tangible benefits.
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It can be done
On the issue of campaign finance, Kaczyński spoke about the decision of the National Electoral Commission to withdraw PiS subsidies from the campaign. He stressed that the party would fund the effort through fundraising and ongoing collections. He underscored that while other fundraising efforts have occurred for years, the current moment demands a robust effort because the stakes are high and the outcome could shape the country’s future. A prolonged presidency could steer Poland in a different direction, he warned, and that scenario would be detrimental if not addressed promptly.
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Finally, Ogórek returned to the central question: what specific guidance would he share with Nawrocki or what advice had already been given?
The response centered on unwavering commitment. Nawrocki’s readiness to bear a demanding load, both for the sake of national service and the country’s future, was highlighted again. The candidate’s focus on duty, hard work, and public engagement—visiting provinces and connecting with people across the republic—was emphasized as essential to carrying Poland forward in challenging times.
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