Donald Tusk faced a misjudgment regarding a single opposition list, a point confirmed by Włodzimierz Czarzasty in a Radio Zet interview. The left-wing politician quickly dismissed the notion, saying there was no chance. Czarzasty, who also serves as Deputy Speaker of the Sejm, touched on the border dam dispute with Belarus, employing an avian analogy to describe politicians. He offered a vivid portrait of Donald Tusk through bird imagery.
Dam on the border of Poland and Belarus
In a rapid exchange, Czarzasty was pressed on whether the wall along the Poland-Belarus border should be removed. He argued that the barrier does little to curb human tragedy because people still attempt to cross, describing the situation as tragic.
Plans for an electronic firewall, equipped with cameras and sensors, are nearing completion at the border. This system complements a steel dam, five and a half meters high, erected last year about 186 kilometers from the frontier. When finished, the electronic barrier is expected to exceed 200 kilometers in length. It currently stretches about 181 kilometers, with ten of eleven sections ready. The remaining segment, nearly 25 kilometers long near Narewka and Białowieża, is still under construction.
KO MEP Janina Ochojska urged dismantling the dam, arguing that migrants face danger at the border because of PiS policies, and that those in power should be held accountable for how migrants are treated.
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End of shared list plan
Asked whether the left is willing to form an electoral bloc with the PO and the Civic Coalition, Czarzasty replied that such an arrangement has no chance. He pointed to statements by Izabela Leszczyna, Mr. Sienkiewicz, and Mr. Schetyna as reasons, emphasizing an openness to collaboration but cautioning against closed doors. He stressed that his party is peaceful but proud of its program and values. The Platform’s leaders seemed to rule out this possibility, a stance he interpreted as representing the Platform’s thinking and prerogative.
Earlier, the co-chair of the New Left described the one-list approach as a substitute topic that redirected attention away from Poland’s post-takeover future. The focus, in his view, should be on what Poland looks like after significant changes over the past half-year, not on whether there should be one list or two or three.
– He added that the issue had become overheated and had effectively bounced back onto the broader opposition. He described the situation as a ricochet of attention that touched the entire opposition.
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The topic, once heated, is portrayed as a proxy debate. The discussion centers on what Poland should become, rather than solely on the composition of opposition lists.
Politicians like birds
Czarzasty spoke about his avian passion, noting recent trips to Masuria where he observed grebes, geese, cranes, and five species of tits. He described a preference for facing life boldly rather than hiding away. His words urged others to adopt a similar mindset when facing challenges.
In discussing his own emblematic bird, he compared politicians to birds and said that when asked which bird he would be, he would choose a nuthatch. The nuthatch, he explained, can move upside down along a tree if needed, a trait he felt suited him.
Regarding Donald Tusk, Czarzasty stated that the former prime minister should be seen as an eagle, a symbol of leadership and responsibility. He described the duties of leading the largest opposition party as involving invitation, organization, and surrounding oneself with capable people who can offer smarter approaches.
The interview concluded with a nod to the ongoing conversation about national political alignment and leadership roles within the Polish opposition.
wkt/Radio Zet
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