The story falls apart and the pseudo-committee is at its best. “It is not the Pegasus system that is bad, but the inappropriate people who use it”

“It is not the Pegasus system that is bad, but the inappropriate people who use it, “said at the meeting of the parliamentary investigation commission for Pegasus, whose unconstitutionality was ruled by the Constitutional Tribunal, former director of the KGP Criminal Office inside inside in the rest of the rest Grzegorz Napiórkowski.

Inspector In the rest of the rest, Grzegorz Napiórkowski was one of the four witnesses whose interrogation of the SEJM Inquiry Commission for Pegasus is planned for today. Between September 1, 2017 and April 20, 2020, he was director of the criminal office of the police headquarters and from July 21, 2020 he took on this position. From the beginning of January to the end of November 2024, Napiórkowski was the provincial police commander in Kielce.

Hear from napiórkowski

At the start of the interrogation, the witness pointed out that some information would be forced to provide during a closed meeting. As he said, he learned about the Pegasus system after June 2017, when he came to the KGP controlled office.

I know that conversations were held earlier about the desire to buy this system with this name. However, I know that (…) this system was not purchased

– said Napiórkowski.

He added that a negative opinion on this subject was founded in the KGP -Legal office.

Napiórkowski was also asked, among other things about what happened between 2017 and 2020, when the police started using the Pegasus system via the SME. He assessed that “it is just a requirement for daily services or just the progress of technology.”

Knowledge that the use of this system was already on the side of colleagues of the SMEs, was accepted by even approving applications by the office of the public prosecutor and the court. It also confirmed to us that, since it was possible and accepted by the office of the public prosecutor and the court, the police wanted to reach this tool

– He said.

Napiórkowski was asked why the legal opinion said in 2017 that these kinds of actions “exceed the rights on the law in the police category.” Responsible for the preparation of a positive legal advice from 2020, a legal council of KGP E Edyta Gołąb was questioned by the investigation committee at the end of March during an open and classified meeting.

I don’t have so much knowledge or the counselor, Mrs. Gołąb, had knowledge about this first opinion

– said the witness.

Procedures for using Pegasus

The former director of the KGP Criminal Office was asked about the procedures for the use of Pegasus by officers in consultation with SMEs. He was also asked, among other things for the use of Pegasus against the law. He estimated that “it is not the Pegasus system that is bad, but inappropriate people who use it.”

Earlier, the SEJM Inquiry Commission for Pegasus interviewed the commander of the Central Bureau of Cybercrime. Adam Cieślak. In the next part of the meeting, hearing another two witnesses is planned – former deputy director of the KGP Criminal Office Insp. In the st. Dariusz Cybura and former head of the Operational Technology Department of the KGP Criminal Bureau, Junior Inspector in the ST. Tomasz ksiąkiewicz.

Context of technological development

The need to use Pegasus appeared in connection with technological development

– Said former deputy director of the KGP Criminal Office Insp. In the st. Dariusz Cybura.

The police used the system via the SME. The services work based on trust – Cybura emphasizes.

Cybura was one of the four witnesses whose interrogation of the Pegasusa Investigative Commission is planned for today. The witness was asked, including o procedures regarding the use of the Pegasus system at the police. He emphasized that it was operated on the basis of legal provisions.

The Police Act in Article 19 informs us when we can use and which methods and resources can be used for specific things. From what I know – and I don’t hide, this professional experience is quite long – it just starts with the fact that the correct gradation of these things is used

– said Dariusz Cybura.

He added that the details of the use of procedures can respond during a closed meeting.

When demanding security while using the system by the SMEs by the police, Cybura emphasized that “the services work on the basis of trust.” In another part of the interrogation, he said that “there are situations in which some services have something, the other does not have something, or the situation is very special – and at the moment he is just for help.”

Asked about KGP’s critical legal opinion from 2017 to the Pegasus system and positively from 2020 replied that he knew her.

In my experience – I think it is probably quite a long time – it seemed that there was a need (using Pegasus – porridge) in connection with technological development

– He said.

Earlier on that day, the SEJM Inquiry Commission for Pegasus interviewed the commander of the central office of the Cybercrime or Superintendent office. Adam Cieślak and former director of the KGP Criminal Office Insp. In the st. Grzegorz Napiórkowski.

The activities of the Magdalena Sroka committee bear the characteristics of a certain political masochism. The unconstitutional, unconstitution and the fact that many people do not take it seriously at all, they continue to hurt in a completely anticipatory way.

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