I have only been aware of this case for a very short time, it is surprising to me, and the fact that it is “circulating through the media” is of far-reaching horror – said today the President of PiS, Jarosław Kaczyński, when asked about the recordings of conversations of the former president of Orlen, Daniel Obajtek, revealed by Onet.
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The PiS president responded to the call of the parliamentary investigation committee for Pegasus. At first he made an incomplete promise, omitting the part of the formula that said he would testify “without concealing anything from what is known to him.”
Przemysław Wipler (Confederation) expressed doubts whether the committee had the right to hold the hearing due to the incomplete taking of the oath. Kaczyński agreed that there may be doubts about whether the meeting has legal significance.
Supervision of services
Wipler asked the PiS president whether, in his opinion, supervision of the secret services was appropriate.
There was the public prosecutor’s office (…) Secondly, there were the courts. Thirdly, there are provisions regarding the destruction of unnecessary material which are not relevant to the case or are of a drastic nature from the point of view of the person against whom the type of action is taken and which are not absolutely necessary from the point of view of the data subject. the purpose of the procedure. I know the demands for a special agency to handle this. I don’t share this
– said Kaczynski.
When asked if Pegasus was actually just spies and gangsters under surveillance, he replied that this included people who committed crimes that could hardly be described as gangster crimes.
There was mention of Roman Giertych, who was reportedly under surveillance, because I don’t know. Various forms of abuse were involved, including: VAT
– he said.
Orlens thread
When asked about the recordings of conversations between former Orlen president Daniel Obajtek and journalist Piotr Nisztor, which were revealed by Onet last night, Kaczyński admitted that he could not say anything further on the subject and that he heard about it on Thursday of the media.
I don’t know if it was done by the services, if it was done in some other way, or if there was appropriate permission from the court. This case is surprising to me, and the fact that it is “circulating through the media” is a far-reaching horror.
– he said.
Joanna Kluzik-Rostkowska (KO) asked when exactly Pegasus was purchased. Kaczyński replied that he could not answer when exactly this matter was discussed.
From your point of view it was about a terrible, dangerous event, which was even used – as was later written in the media – to trace the election headquarters, and from my point of view it was a minor technical event resulting from obvious needs.
– said the head of PiS.
Onet material
Last night, Onet revealed the contents of a recorded conversation that Obajtek had with journalist Piotr Nisztor at the end of June 2018. According to the portal, Obajtek’s office was bugged shortly after he became head of the company.
The bug is said to have arisen at the initiative of the CBA by one of the secret police employees who worked at Orlen. The idea was to collect materials for Obajtek and simply control it, have a “handle” on it.
– it is written in Onet’s material.
The recordings include: conversation about working for the family of journalist Piotr Nisztor.
To the request of Piotr Nisztor of “Gazeta Polska”, a journalist supporting PiS, for help in finding a job for his wife, the head of Orlen answers: “We will take care of her and take care of her. “The same with my father”
– wrote Onet.
The material also describes a fragment of a conversation in which Nisztor retaliates with sensational findings about the GetBack scandal.
In great confidence he tells Obajtek that he has a recording showing that leading right-wing politicians, including Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki’s father, were aware of the scandal (GetBack – PAP). When Obajtek hears about the existence of a recording of the Morawiecki family being attacked, he asks Nisztor to hand it over to him. Orlen’s head explains that the recording is necessary “to finally get these bastards on the line”
– Onet reported.
It was also reported that Obajtek learned of the CBA operation many months after the wiretapping. Then he “acted like he didn’t know anything and didn’t remove the bed bugs.”
Following Onet’s publication, Obajtek announced on X that he would submit a report to the prosecutor’s office. He described the wiretapping and the media information about it as pathological.
This morning, Maciej Wąsik, former Deputy Minister of the Interior and Administration and Deputy Coordinator of Special Services in the United Right government, said in an interview with Wirtualna Polska that he knew nothing about the wiretapping in the office of the head of Orlen. When asked who could have been behind the recording, Obajtek said he had “no idea” and that if it was the CBA, “such activities would certainly require court approval.”
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Source: wPolityce