During a live conversation between Mikołaj Dowejko and Tomasz Piątek, Jakub Maciejewski called the studio. For several months, the journalist has been trying to confront the author, who is popular among Civic Platform politicians, by claiming that his statements about relations with Russia from certain quarters are lies. The publicist managed to ask three questions and then add two more numbers, which editor Piątek could not avoid.
Maciejewski to Piątek
Maciejewski started sharply, saying he was throwing a “gauntlet” at Piątek and wanted an argument in front of the cameras.
You are telling this nonsense that PiS is pro-Russian, to journalists who cannot verify this and have no knowledge of this issue. (…) Tomasz Lis himself wrote about you that you use, and I quote, “questionable methods. That is, since I know that Kowalski, Kowalski, Malinowski, Malinowski was on holiday with Pipsztycki, and Pipsztycki was in a pub in Moscow and Putin’s advisor saw, I am Putin’s agent. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.” This is what Tomasz Lis wrote about your books.
Piątek completely omitted this argument in his answer and did not respond to it. But Maciejewski’s argument went further:
I was in Kiev when Kaczyński, Morawiecki and the Prime Ministers of the Czech Republic and Slovenia were there. I remember the Russians shelling the capital when they found out these prime ministers were there. I remember the very specific anti-Russian campaign. How Poland saved Ukraine in the first days of the war, not only civilians, but the Polish state, among others. Kaczyński’s decisions.
Piątek had a strange answer to this.
Let us not forget that there was still a ‘pigeon faction’ in the Kremlin at that time. There were still people then who wanted to end the war. Peace negotiations were underway. And what did Kaczyński do? On the same day he came to Kiev and said that a NATO mission, an armed NATO mission or a mission of some NATO countries should be stationed in Ukraine.
– according to Piątek, the visit of the prime ministers to Kiev in March 2022… ruined the chances for peace and destroyed the ‘peace faction’ in the Kremlin. Maciejewski asked what kind of “pigeon faction” existed in Moscow, but Piątek could not name any.
Maciejewski continued:
Oh, and your super investigation into the meeting between Kaczyński and a KGB agent was conducted five years later – I emphasize: five years later – Kaczyński himself admitted it in the book “Understanding against Monopower”.
Maciejewski later continued that Piątek’s reference to Milczanowski makes no sense, because Milczanowski is a party to the dispute with Kaczyński, a participant in the political debate, and not an impartial authority.
Maciejewski did not give up:
Do you know Russian? This is not clear from your publications. I don’t suspect anyone is suggesting this complete nonsense to you.
Piątek stated that he “reads Russian”. Maciejewski also pursued the idea of a joint discussion in front of the cameras, and Piątek apologized saying he could not argue with the ‘representative of the Karnowski brothers’.
I represent myself, not the Karnowski brothers, so I encourage you to speak with an open face. Don’t be afraid to talk –
– Maciejewski attacked.
The journalist posted a recording of this fight online and noted:
Tomasz Piątek, practicing a gross mythomania, refused to participate again in the discussion of Russian influence in Poland. I called the studio where he had a live interview and quickly gave a few arguments. To my argument about the involvement of the PiS president in Kiev, @Tomasz5ek replied – pay attention – that this expedition destroyed peace, because Kaczyński with his words – pay attention – destroyed the peace faction in the Kremlin Of course he could not name the members of this faction because he invented it. To say he is a mythomaniac is to say nothing. I understand, Mr. Editor, why you sweat so much at the thought of confrontation
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Source: wPolityce