Katarzyna Lubnauer and Kamil Bortniczuk were guests on the program “Kropka nad i” on TVN24. Politicians debated the new government’s illegal takeover of the media and the case of Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik.
When asked about Mariusz Kamiński’s display of Mariusz Kamiński’s so-called Kozakiewicz gesture, Lubnauer replied:
We have a situation where Lichocka’s gesture is followed by Kozakiewicz’s gesture. This shows how the PiS party treats the Sejm, which should be a place of culture and debate.
Bortniczuk noted that to evaluate this gesture, you need to know its history. He recalled that MPs Kamiński and Wąsik can still benefit from the privileges of MPs. He also remembered, among other things: the character of Roman Giertych.
I don’t think this gesture is rude, especially knowing the history of this gesture. (…) I find it incomprehensible how coalition politicians can suggest that Minister Kamiński should be in prison, but he has an active card, he can vote, he can enter the Sejm. Someone is lying here. (…) Who did he show it to? You have to ask him. Wanting to get into his thoughts, he may have shown Roman Giertych, who wanted to put him in jail. (…) I don’t think this gesture is the worst that the Sejm plenary hall has seen. Also in this term. (…) Jarosław Kaczyński had the right not to see it
– he said.
He recalled Mariusz Kamiński’s activities in the fight against corruption.
He is a man who fights corruption and most of the charges against him have been dropped. (…) the specter of ending up behind bars with the criminals he fought hangs over him
– he said.
Katarzyna Lubnauer said that President Duda, who pardoned PiS politicians, was also to blame in the case.
Jarosław Kaczyński apparently put pressure on the president. And Kamiński and Wąsik are paying for this legal mess. Now the president could exercise the power of pardon. Mr Wąsik and Mr Kamiński (…) Even though they have been convicted, they participate in the sessions of the Sejm
– she said.
Bortniczuk returned to the issue of the presence of MPs Kamiński and Wąsik in the Sejm. He drew attention to the strange actions of Marshal Hołownia.
I demand that the marshal behave consistently. (…) someone is probably not sure whether he is acting in accordance with the law. Marshal Hołownia acts in a safe manner
– he said.
Lubnauer continued to blame PiS for destroying Polish law.
Everywhere we look we see a situation of chaos and legal chaos
– she said.
Media takeover
Kamil Bortniczuk raised the issue of the illegal takeover of public media.
I would like the free media to notice how scandalously the laws and constitution are being violated by Minister Sienkiewicz. (…) You have switched off the TVP signal for the first time since martial law
– recalled the former Minister of Sports.
Katarzyna Lubnauer decided to talk about the salaries of TVP journalists.
I have the impression that Adamczyk’s high salary corresponds to what the president thought about the public media (…) The president was not bothered by what was happening in the public media. (…) You have created a legal vacuum
– she said.
Kamil Bortniczuk also drew attention to illegal activities related to the takeover of the Polish News Agency.
You are breaking the law in a completely brazen way
– said the PiS MP.
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Source: wPolityce