“The trickster who lived at the expense of others is now in the ruling class”

Can’t you get one? comedy canonical cheesy romantic?

I make sure that the story attracts me and does not contain elements that will push me back. I’m not one to end the movie with a kiss, but there are kisses in this movie. I really liked the idea of ​​ending with a scare, realizing that the characters survived and their relationship survived all sorts of misfortunes.

Would reality be bearable if everyday stories ended like your movies?

That’s why it’s cinema, not reality. In fiction, I love that when telling a story, everything is as intense and exciting as one would like. In real life, I am a very peaceful man. I have no desire to experience any of my films.

Which road movie represents you the most: “Those crazy people in their crazy pots”, “Two for the road” or “Devil on the Wheel”?

Man, I wish someone could represent me, because I like three great movies too. Maybe all three in one would be one of my goals. I’ve always loved to have a crazy funny element in a movie, that point of unpredictable eccentricity like in “Those crazy ones.” But I also like that there are characters who find what happened to them important to the audience, make them sad and happy. “Two for the Road” is such a sad and wonderful movie, it’s hard to get out of it alive and it has a strange happy ending when what it’s telling you is a very tragic story. That’s where you tend to make pineapple chicken, something that’s very sweet and salty at the same time, strong and gets you excited.

To what extent did being the son of a television with any genre of cinema make you a director without a specific genre?

To the full extent. You create a mood through the eclecticism of TV, the lack of order and organization in watching movies. I watched the John Huston movies at the same time as the Marx Brothers and Amici Miei. There was no order, no hierarchy, no one told me this was the cinema you should enjoy, no one gave orders to my head, and that’s the basis of my character and the way I work.

It’s the opposite of what platforms and algorithms do that tell you what your favorite movies are now.

Ordering can be a problem as it is polarized. Wanting to watch only one type of movie and rejecting the others will make you see only what you want to see, which will cause you to miss out on a lot of things. No one is going to miss out on something they don’t know and that scares me so much, there are great movies that people just don’t enjoy.

The two funniest characters in the movie – who played albert san john and Ernesto Alterio – about his age. Any warnings for your generation?

I try not to message but it is true that they are two ways I know of facing life. One is the sensible, logical person who tries to make things right and always fights the truth as reality pushes you to do things you don’t want to. The other is someone who enjoys the chaos he constantly creates and doesn’t care even though he knows things will not get better. That is, he lives in a much more chaotic state than the other, causing much more damage than the other, but getting better results.

Alterio plays a top-notch rogue. In literature, bandits always came from below. Now in real life they seem to come from above.

This is true. We now have very conservative people in the middle classes who demand and seek seriousness, and in the satirical, insane, rogue ruling classes who live at the expense of others.

It’s scarier for the bandit to be upstairs than downstairs, isn’t it?

Undoubtedly, this is why what happens to us happens to us.

Does the San Juan character represent another social class, namely the want-and-can-not class?

Yes, he tells everyone that he works for a high-tech company and actually still lives with his mother. This striving to be discontinuous is what leads them to disaster.

Despite all the black humor in our culture, from Lazarillo to you, we don’t quite know how to defend ourselves against such people.

Humor is one of the most interesting learning mechanisms. Finding out what makes you laugh and why defines you very well. The eerie, the grotesque is what has always fascinated us in this country. Mask, buffoonery, satire…

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Definitely and dodging Mortadelo’s “run boss, run” seems like the problems will end if you run forward but it’s hard because in reality the problems are always with you and no matter how much you run they will always follow you

Which releases more, the laughter or the cry of fear?

Both are purifying because they save you for a moment, either you feel good when you go out because of such a dramatic situation, or you’re incredibly happy for an hour and a half. In the most tense moments, the head can make you have a wonderful dream in which everything happens or vice versa. I remember taking an impossible math test and dreaming without knowing there was a test, and when you woke up you felt relieved when you realized it was wrong.

Try not to text on your phone. moviesBut they also talked about the fear of being different, trash television, the dangers of fame, the excesses of tourism, treating free women as witches…

I want my films to be on a realistic basis, that this crazy thing I’m going to tell you about happens to real people I know, and it’s very close. More than anything, being able to believe what the audience believes will happen. This helps you understand a story that is always fiction. What happens is that you discover that it’s not so fictional because you finally realize that it’s because of what happened to you, that the other thing comes from there, that this happened to Jorge (Guerricaechevarría, De la’s regular screenwriter). Iglesia)… You soon discover that you are describing things that you have experienced and that reflect reality. But cinema is not for moralizing.

The “fourth passenger” can be a warning about the ease of travel. social networks to allow us to trust strangers to put them in your car, home or checking account.

Yep, this is getting even crazier, we’ve accepted a curious intruder on mobile and social networks. We show our inner life and let no one pass.

But you are an active user. twitter…

Yes, I really enjoy Twitter and Instagram, it’s a great communication mechanism. Nothing like this has happened since Gutenberg. What’s happening is that it’s very new and it takes time to know where the limits are. Tweeting is like opening a window and speaking into a square with half a million people. You must know what you are saying, that they hear you, that they understand, that they do not misinterpret.

This movie was released in October, just six months after the previous movie, “Veneciafrenia”.

Yes, now I’m finishing the editing of the new season of “30 Coins”, the post-production of “Monkeys and Monkeys with Guns” for HBO, about the world of football and written by Pablo Tebar and Jorge Valdano. By the way, this is Carolina’s idea (Bang, actress, producer and partner of De la Iglesia).

What does Carolina add to you as a colleague?

What do you see? In ten years we have learned to collaborate together and the result has been incredible productivity.

Do you take the cinema with the same impetus as when you shot “Mutant Action”?

Moreover, because I don’t have the necessary unconsciousness to make a movie, so I have to provoke it. And how does it originate? Talking to people, producing other people, getting into projects, bringing up forgotten crazy ideas. And for that you need my complicity with Carolina.

Do you prefer unconsciousness or experience?

I don’t know… What’s interesting is, let’s call it a directed blackout shooting towards a controlled area.

But this is already Olympic shooting. This is John Ford.

Exactly, this is a claim, not a fact.