“Some of those who talk so much about the Constitution would defend Senate reform if they read it to themselves.”

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how was it policy Since 1978, when he campaigned for PCE elections Which is number one for Sumar, who has been a party to the Senate so far?

Everything has changed a lot. There were many incidents and many mobilizations in the towns. The worst part is that the majority of citizens still have difficulty getting involved in democratic procedures. Also, we knew ETA would kill when a campaign came along. Now the bad thing is that the tension produced by social networks is terrible. It is very difficult for leaders to think calmly and everything is overly professionalized. Some leaders only know how to say what the press officer told them to say. It’s good to have counselors, but the key is to grasp a political line and try to present it as best you can, with the best possible sense of humor and irony.

How does Manuel Alcaraz fit into such a campaign?

My party called me and said that I proposed to Compromís. I said yes, in firm belief that better candidates could emerge, and that we live in an extraordinarily complex and complex time, and that once one has had this experience, one cannot stop showing up for moral reasons. How are you facing a situation.

Why Senate?

That’s what they suggested to me. It is true that they are running for the congressional primaries, and they know in the party that I am the absolute enemy of the primaries: they are a democratic simulation. Besides, I was already a Senate candidate years ago.

The Senate has always been referred to as a kind of elephant burial ground. Should I rub my hand?

As I have written on several occasions, the Senate is the rest home of democracy.

And it’s incompatible with being on these lists, right?

Because of my age, I’ve already earned the right to become a senator. I encourage citizens to look at my age and vote for me, although those older than me were already there when the Senate building was built.

What should be done with the Senate in any case?

Article 69 is dedicated to the Senate, which says it is the Chamber of regional representation, but this has not been confirmed. It has become a second reading camera with its preferred shape and functions. It is not so much a question of reforming the Senate itself as it is to better clarify the powers between the autonomous communities and the central government. Interestingly, there are those who say that when we advocate a federal Spain, it means more separation, and vice versa. The Senate has to be the centripetal force in this federal Spanish scheme. The problem is that we do not have an institution in Spain that represents communities and thus avoids centrifugal movements. Some of those who talk about Spain and the Constitution from the moment they get up to the moment they go to bed understand that if they read and tried to understand the Constitution, they would have to advocate a reform in Spain because of Spanishism. Autonomous State and Senate.

And is this possible today?

At the moment, it is practically impossible. There are simpler reforms. There is talk of honoring people with disabilities or ending the domination of men over women. We should give more weight to environmental rights, the right to housing, and increase the number of values. We have freedom, equality, justice and pluralism, and I would include equality between men and women, environmental sustainability and hospitality as Spain’s great values. This is a very complicated moment, but the question is not whether the Constitution should be changed, but rather when, because when it was made, there was not even the Internet, Spain was not in the European Union…

How can Sumar contribute to this scenario?

What we can contribute from Sumar and much of Botànic’s experience is his determination to unify something from the very beginning, and it’s his method rather than the result. Let’s talk to see how much we can get along. And this extremely complex legislature was the first legislature where there was agreement between various political forces, but if we look at Europe, most of the states are governed by a coalition. I do not think that the main culprit of the tension is the politicians and the parties, on the contrary, unfortunately, there is tension in the society. There are many industries that feel like losers to globalization, that are experiencing identity crises on many levels, and are trying to tighten themselves and their groups and achieve as much as possible, sometimes not realizing that they want contradictions.

If you had to make a prediction for 23J, what would it be?

Whenever mine wins, I don’t show up if I don’t. Ortega said that politics has a role in games or sports. Therefore, one should go out with maximum illusion and at the same time be aware that playing is a very serious thing. Large sections of society fear that Vox is in government, and if Vox is in institutions, he rules. PP cannot hide by saying that he will see according to the votes he gets. A party like Vox is like putting a drop of paint into a bottle of water: the whole bottle is that color. Therefore, do not let Feijóo fool us. Vox’s recommendations just make society twitch.

And what part of the responsibility does the left have?

The left clearly made mistakes. In some cases, certain types of offers have been overemphasized without realizing that it will create certain backlash effects. Do we have to give up part of our program? No, but the main virtue of the politician since the Greek classics is common sense. We are already experiencing the same as in Italy, Germany shudders, let’s not talk about Hungary, Poland, Scandinavian countries… On the other hand, Vox doesn’t have that many and compositional votes. This is also a matter of curiosity. It’s been very bumpy and decisive as there is only one public task involved, and that’s the problem: it already manages to polarize all debates. First of all, because the current classical conservative party in Spain did not want to do what Fraga did. Fraga never wanted to go hand in hand with Fuerza Nueva or Falange. If the PP had taken a much stronger position and had not weakened itself so much with incidents such as corruption, other kinds of compromises or dialogues could have been reached to prevent this.

Could Sumar set a precedent for future elections, or even regional elections?

No one has mentioned this, but I have a hunch this will continue if things go partially well. There will always be technical compliance issues then, but it can be done.

Do you consider yourself a regional senator?

No, I consider myself an elected senator.

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