“We took strong and swift action. It was necessary. If someone wants to call it ‘putting everything on one card’, that is also an appropriate term’ – this is how the support to Ukraine was summed up in the joint program of TVP Info and Polish Radio, ‘Open Cards’, PiS chairman Jarosław Kaczyński .
He referred to the slogan “for our and your freedom”
It was also about our interests, about the threat to Poland. (…) We have decided that everything must be done to prevent Ukraine from collapsing. (…) We arranged it from the first day, already at night, right after we received the news that the Russian troops had moved to Kiev
– said the president of PiS.
Germany’s attitude
“Bild’ about the talks in which an ultimatum was given to Volodymyr Zelensky. According to these reports, Western states will want Kiev to make peace if the Ukrainian counter-offensive fails.
Europe reacted in different ways. There are countries – Germany is an example here – that have opted for cooperation with Russia. It is an old Bismarck tradition to achieve dominance in Europe by collaborating with Russia
said Jaroslaw Kaczynski.
Only that in recent years and decades it has served the construction of Russia, although (…) it was clear that it was able to break the rules that should function in a civilized world, and thanks to this achieved a very serious supply which served for armament and stability in Russia
he remembered.
It was difficult for Russia to attack Ukraine when oil for Europe was flowing through it. (…) Without this investment [Nord Stream – przyp. red.] Russian aggression against Ukraine would be virtually impossible
he noticed.
Putting terms on Ukraine is an undertaking in favor of Russia
– added.
Getting it back [Donbasu – przyp. red.] is a precondition for fair negotiations. (…) However, it will probably have to be recovered with an armed hand
said Jaroslaw Kaczynski.
Words from Thomas Bagger
The president of PiS also referred to German Ambassador Thomas Bagger’s critical remarks about Polish policies and paying for Russian energy.
We started from the situation created by the People’s Republic of Poland – there was no alternative. The post-communist forces (…) were in power most of the time
– emphasized Jaroslaw Kaczyński.
It should be remembered that decisions such as the construction of a gas terminal, as well as the resumption of the pipeline are a problem [z Norwegii] it was our decision. Earlier decisions were very popular in Germany. The ambassador should be reminded of this
he noticed.
If patriotic forces had ruled Poland from the beginning (…), it would have taken some time anyway. The ambassador discusses this on the agenda. He is lying in a very unsightly manner and I wonder if he will intervene after this conversation. But it will not help, we will tell the truth about Germany’s attitude and we will insist that Germany change this attitude and increase stocks – this would be a serious support for Ukraine
– summed up the president of PiS.
Biden’s visit
Jarosław Kaczyński indicated the priority and effects of President Biden’s visit to Poland.
Position [Polski] increased, the opinion of Poland improved. We have an opinion like in the time of “Solidarity”, when a lot was said about Poland and it should be used. We use it
– said the president of PiS.
This strengthens Ukraine, but also our position. (…) We buy large quantities of very dangerous weapons. We want to deter an attack against us and if this attack happens, we want to defend ourselves effectively
he noticed.
He [Biden – przyp. red.] he brought interesting concepts here, (…) he presented them in several conversations and they seem to me very coherent and show a very good perspective of a new security architecture in this part of Europe with an important role for Poland. (…) We must arm ourselves if we are to play an important role in this enterprise
– emphasized Jaroslaw Kaczyński.
Germany’s politics
The PiS president also pointed out the nature of Berlin’s policies.
Beyond this war, we have a clear, directly formulated plan to unite Europe not as a federation, but as a largely centralized state led by Germany.
– he said.
It would be a loss of independence. This independence would be just an incident. (…) The effect would be that Poland would be a poor, unimportant, bereft country. This was formulated long ago in German doctrines. (…) We don’t want to be far behind Germany, we want to reach their level, we don’t want to be a small country, we want to count. (…) We are a great country with a difficult but very beautiful history. (…) We would be much more sure of success if the forces of total opposition committed to the forces did not lead to such a situation for Poland
– said the president of PiS.
gah/TVP Info/Polish Radio
Source: wPolityce