Guirigay: Language that is difficult to understand; noise or noise; confusing sounds or shouts or discordant voices; scene of confusion and disorder (Spanish dictionary of usage, María Moliner).
President Carlos Lesmes Supreme Court and the General Assembly of the Judiciary (Madrid, 1958), ‘pectore’ resigned, presiding over what could be this Thursday 29th. last ordinary general meeting. There were four hours when the most relevant issue was the last item on the agenda: the appointment of two magistrates of the Constitutional Court to replace the previous CGPJ magistrates, Santiago Martínez-Vares (conservative) and Juan Antonio Xiol (progressive). one was appointed for a nine-year term in June 2013 and expired on 12 June.
If you look at the minutes of this appointment, the plenary session chaired by Judge Gonzalo Moliner, then-president of the CGPJ, began at 10:00 and voting ended at 10:40. Compared to the obligation to appoint magistrates’ deputies, which was not fulfilled on 13 September, perhaps this single figure represents the deterioration of the judicial and constitutional system in Spain better than any other. an obligation that is deliberately violated by the policy of the People’s Party, for example to prevent the renewal of the CGPJ, to serve two terms when elected for one of five years according to the law, if no one can remedy it,
At around 11:40 am on Thursday 29th, Lesmes presented the last item on the agenda: appointments. Relieved, he explained that the authority for this was reinstated: “Appointments have to be made because the Constitution and the Judiciary Law says so, expecting nothing and waiting for no one. And as for its renewal. CGPJ I’m waiting for a gesture that serious negotiations are taking place. If not next week, I’ll go and that’s it. I’m going to go I’m saying that plainly.”
He then asked for an account of why the negotiators had not reached an agreement since 8 September last year. The conservative mediator, José Antonio Ballestero, was the first to make the promise, explaining that they had little time left and that the matter could not be resolved in two or three meetings.
“I know what it is. But what are the predictions today,” Lesmes interrupted. ”
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Lesmes raged: “We’re talking about very different things.” And he asked the progressive group. Rafael Mozo and Álvaro Cuesta spoke. “We have a roster of nine candidates of all colors. They say they came to us with the argument that there is no candidate. “We are not responsible for any unjustified delay.”
Member Concha Sáez, who warned at the plenary meeting on September 8 that any negotiations require a precise timetable, pointed out that they are at the same point.
“Of course we need to set a date because if the president leaves,” said one member who was already at an irregular meeting.
Establishing himself as a seasoned negotiator to reject any calendar on September 8, José María Macías warned: “We cannot work this way with this pressure. And we’ll have to see what European Commissioner Didier Reynders, traveling to Madrid, has to say. And it’s not just Reynders. He chairs a commission. We’ll have to see the European Commission. It will have to report to the EC, and it will prepare a report and do what it has to do.”
Another member at the other end of the table shouted: “Yeah, why not? We’re also waiting to see what NATO thinks about all this.”
Then he tried to summarize a vocal situation.
“No. We need to set a date because in the meantime the president is leaving us hanging around. Let’s see Monday, Tuesday will be a little early, but maybe if we put it to October 5th and we have a proposal on the 5th. We’ll tell the president and convene the extraordinary plenary for the 6th meeting. Nothing on these dates, next week.
And someone else objected to fix it. “Next week is a long weekend and National Holiday”. And of course Lesmes has to go to the Royal Palace to greet the Kings. “Then let’s stay better on the 13th”
“Most agreed that the deadline is October 13. [`un mes exacto después del plazo del 13 de septiembre que el sector conservador logró que el CGPJ incumpliera la ley al negarse a hacer los nombramientos] but I haven’t heard Lesmes say that outright”
With Lesmes or with Lesmes’ resignation? “I trust it will happen. But he didn’t say it would either. Otherwise he would have said his commitment was by the first week of October,” he said.
The head of TS and CGPJ acted calmly in this meaningless conversation, almost free of tension, a controlled tension that was breathed in at the meeting, not angry. “A Valid Lesmes”.
He laughed a lot towards the end of the meeting.
“Hey look what they’re saying here. A member told him that the president of the Judicial Professional Association (APM) wanted your resignation.
“Let’s see”
Vocal gave him his cell phone.
Lesmes read while a conservative member spoke.
APM President Maria Jesús del Barco
Lesmes says to him: “See what your president says Maria Jesus del Barco…APM president urged the CGPJ president to resign at the end of his meeting with the European Commissioner of Justice visiting Madrid,
The member replied: “I don’t have a president, I have a president”
Lesmes laughed loudly. “I will make María Jesús very happy,” she replied.
The conservative sector wants Lesmes out.
“Those who have supported him for years, his own men, are looking forward to his departure. He’s already in trouble,” the member consulted.
If you want to escape the pressure of the appointments that Lesmes has applied, would you like the head of the First Division of the Supreme Court to replace him now? Francisco Marin Castan?
In other words, a reserve who is not elected by the members, lacks democratic legitimacy, falls like a paratrooper.
For the conservative sector, this would have allowed the film to restart and delay ‘sine death’ appointments in TC, renew the CGPJ and prolong the agony of the two institutions.